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 Posted 7/8/2009 1:54:23 PM |
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| How do members get banned from the forum? And, once they have been banned, how are they prevented from continuing to post under a new user name?
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| Posted 7/9/2009 6:29:32 AM |
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| In my experience here, I only know of one member who has been banned - repeatedly as it turns out, because the person just creates a new profile and had continued with the behaviors that got them banned in the first place. Mostly, it was because the person was very rude to hobby farmers and kept putting us down in a very harsh way. I won't go into more detail, as the person still comes back, although it seems they have learned to moderate themselves a little bit...
Karen
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| Posted 7/9/2009 5:57:10 PM |
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IMO just not being in lockstep can be taken as disrespect here.
more than one has been banned. I just have strong convictions.
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| Posted 7/10/2009 10:18:09 AM |
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| I didn't realise you kept getting banned meadow, your writing style is so unique it was easy to follow you through your AKA's. I assumed you kept forgeting your password which is why I keep going MIA, the "forgot your password" thing must send my password to someone elses email. I have to wait until I accidentally find where I have written the password then I can come back. Life is so difficult in the internet age isn't it?
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| Posted 7/11/2009 2:13:31 PM |
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My Great Grandfather Page stood on top of Bunker Hill (Breeds Hill actually) watching as musket balls flew overhead from the British, and took a stand for some ideas that were jotted down in what is known as the declaration of independence. The very first article on that document is the first amendment...the freedom of speech. Today veterans still adamantly defend that freedom and I for one do not take that lightly.
I think its kind of ironic and hypocritical of a magazine that uses that first amendment right to produce a magazine...at profit...as it rightfully should, but turn around and ban members from its own online chat room simply because they do not like what they are saying on a media format that will last mere days at most. Hey this is cyberspace afterall.
Now just as the first amendment does not give the people of this great nation the right to yell fire in a crowded auditorium, one should not write vulgar, obscene or degrading words on this forum either. Heck kids could read this stuff so stay PG! Simply put if you would not say it in church, then don't say it here and keep it clean...but to be banned because someone says its silly to hand milk a cow, or a fiscal waste to buy a 18K mini-baler...come on...
I'll defend Meadowbrook,Mbrooke or Wallsofstone because he does not talk nasty...it truly is something you or I would discuss before church started or in the basement of that church during a pot luck supper (I assume churches outside of New England have these). But you get the point.
He's not very articulate I know...but he's still harmless.
The sad point is, I stopped in here at lunch and there was 2 registered members and 151 guests. Before we get on our high horse and starting banning members because we don't like the way they said something, maybe some people should stop and look at the VERY FEW people that have become members and take time to add to the discussion. We may not always agree with what they say, but...
1. It would be a very dull forum if everyone agreed with what everyone said
2. It would be a very dull forum without members adding posts...or members at all
Yeah I know I will get banned myself for defending Meadowbrook/Mbrook/Wallsofstone, after saying all this but so be it. My Grandfather was not alone on Breed's Hill that day, he had 10 other family members with him, one of which whom lost his life. If I had been born 235 years ago, rest assured I would have been on that darn hill too. That is because the opposite of hypocrisy is integrity and some of us still have it.
So group hug everyone, and let's figure out how we can get these 151 lurkers to start joining in on the discussion! I value all input even if I am no longer here...
Eat lamb...because 50,000 coyotes CAN'T be wrong!
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| Posted 7/11/2009 4:56:09 PM |
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Drawbar,
I spent 23 years wearing the Uniform of this country. The First Amendment of the Constitution does not apply to private corporations, it applies to the Government. The entire Bill of Rights is a limit on the Government not on the people or on corporations.
That being said I agree with you that what Wall O Stone posts here does not seem to be all that offensive. I would like to see an explanation from the management as to just what is going on.
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| Posted 7/11/2009 9:12:55 PM |
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There is generally a step process on our forum. When you break a Forum Rule you get a warning. If you receive two warnings then you get banned. Also, not saying that these are reasons for specific members being banned, there are specific things that might cause an automatic banning.
Again, this is in general how we moderate our Forums.
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| Posted 7/12/2009 4:41:32 AM |
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I understand that Wichman, and I think you knew what I was trying to say but did not pull it off very well and that is about freedoms in general.
Recently on AgDay they showed a segment on Ukrainian Farms and it was intriguing. The soil they have there makes our breadbasket look pitiful...deep black soil to a depth of 10 feet or more and yet the laws there severely limit farming. No outside ownership and hobby farming is not even allowed. Unless the food hits the national food chain...the farm can just not exist. It's a shame because that area of the world could really grow some vast quantities of food, but freedoms and corruption keep it squandered!
The point here is, Hobby Farms Magazine would NEVER even exist there because that form of government does not allow certain freedoms that we take for granted here. They can print whatever they wish simply because congress won't step in and deny them the write to free speech...or us because we can farm as we chose...whether we put it on the national food chain, or simply use the food for our own consumption.
Maybe before we get ban happy on here, we should all look at the freedom of speech and realize that maybe all in all, it's a very good thing.
Eat lamb...because 50,000 coyotes CAN'T be wrong!
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| Posted 7/12/2009 6:40:45 AM |
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| At the risk of drawing fire, I'd like to inject one thought here. Keep in mind I have absolutely nothing to do with the running of this forum--I'm just a member like the rest of you. My feeling is that this is Hobby Farms magazine's forum. If you pick up any issue of the magazine and leaf through it you'll note that much of the material and advertising is aimed at relatively affluent hobby farmers--it's not a magazine slanted for fulltime ("real") farmers. I'm certainly not affluent (she says, glancing at the ratty carpet and used-a-bit-furniture while typing on an extremely secondhand computer) but to make fun of affluent hobby farmers at a forum sponsored by a magazine largely slanted for affluent hobby farmers doesn't make sense. It would be like me joining a Siamese cat forum and continually posting that I hate Siamese cats. Don't get me wrong, guys, I respect your views (yes, even you, wallsostone) and your right to have them--but why at this forum? It seems--bizarre--to constantly bash organics, locavores, hobby farmers and small, expensive machinery at a forum run by a magazine that espouses just such things. And why must we bash? Can't we all get along? Sue
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| Posted 7/12/2009 7:31:28 AM |
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Well Sue, (the person I disagree with sometimes, but respect)
why do I post? because sometimes I get sick of just watching people in a gaggle telling the unknowing masses how it is as if they are the experts.
( a general statement for many kinds of media)..and the blind masses just nod and go uh-huh.
in relation to this forum, For many years the traditional farmer has just minded his own. When someone does some very very odd stuff on his farm we just look on and bit our tongue. but this stuff you so politely pointed to. organic, green, so forth..well I'm, tired of being quiet.
I'm sick of all the Bull.. the hype behind the crazy ideas that send people out here to the sticks to "farm and fail". I'm tired of seeing people miss guided by authors who write very general, one size fits all books about the subject. Leading people out here to buy whatever, and not paint a more honest picture of the hard parts. I'm tired of seeing farm land become the latest fad venture.
People who come here to raise crops and stock that have no market value, but they justify it with some seminar the attended or how they got sick of city life and wanted to move to green acres. Only to see those people throw up there hands and leave a mess behind. Even the Hobby farm types who don't understand that you can't have a cow and get 3 days off a week from milking and they can't understand why it is that they suddenly have no cash.
I'm tired of seeing people who say "yes save the purple ducks" and don't even look at the other side of the coin. and who wants to save the ducks and what is the real reason? what other line items are tied to the purple ducks? Should the people who know about the purple ducks speak up? or should we just toss more energy at it?
And lastly, when I first found this site, I found some very derogatory, ignorant opinions about people.... ruralpeople who see the world as I do. Not the way the newcomers with PHDs do. If I hadn't read those hatefull lines written by a rather snooty, person him/her self.. I might have been more inclined to pass on by. but tit for tat.
Why do I bother? well who posted all those new laws and bills in the house that hobby folks took off the forum? who had technical advice from practical understanding?? If you want practical advice from experienced men and women raised in the life, you'll need to take some of our points of view as well. Not everyone here is as upstanding and kind as the seem. I loved the PVT E-mail that said "why don't you read a book". presuming because I write the way I do, means I don't read.
I'd also say I've received many PVT E-mails from readers of the site thanking me for my point of view.
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