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| We have five Boer cross nannies. We are about to breed them with a Boer cross billy. My question is this. Can and should Billy's breed with their offspring? We are not trying to be fancy. Just having fun raising them. We will sell the wethers and keep the nannies. Should we keep the Billy for future breeding?
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Can? Yes
Should? No
Why? You will lose hybrid vigor.
Brian Wright
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| inbreeding is just wroung with the dad and daughter or mother and son animale or human shouldnt be done. start to mess up the blood lines and add more problums to that animale.
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| An old timer once told me, "You'd get the best or the worst the two can have." I don't really agree. If you bred with something better than what you have you'd be improving your animals, you have for sale. If you keep breeding back, your animals will get smaller and won't produce the strong healthy kids.
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When you start inbreeding you go into VERY bad waters. It was one of the first years we had Boers and we sent them back to the breeder with the promise they'd get breed to an outcross. The breeder wasn't paying attention and put them in with their sire. Fortinatly only one of them got pregnate. The kid was still born with major parrot mouth and had something wronge with it's skin. And this year we had a doe jump the fence and got breed by her uncle. All of the kids had underbits and two of the three died. And the doe knew they weren't right. As they where born she kept pawing and clubing them to kill them, but nature fortinatly did the rest so we didn't have to.
There are two types of people:Those who can walk away from the farm and those who cannot. Those who can walk away should not walk but run to a much easier lifestyle.
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I concur with inbreeding being a bad idea, heck I saw enough of inbreeding's result in high school (seriously).
I would recommend that you get a different bloodline buck, or learn artificial insemination if you want to breed your offspring goats.
Sure it may cost more upfront, but the costs of inbreeding can be potentially much, much worse (as well as heartbreaking).
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From what I've gathered from books/talking to people - inbreeding tends to be a no-no, but linebreeding is more acceptable (meaning that they're bred to a more distant relative). Just be smart about what you're breeding. Even if you raise them for fun (like I do), others are still looking for quality animals and you'll have an easier time selling the kids if they're quality. Always try to improve what you've got - if you're trying for a quality that your billy is strong in, then you could consider breeding the kids back to him, otherwise find another billy.
I fully believe that what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. I believe in dirt and germs!
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| Actually, I disagree, as I have bred sire back to daughters with wonderful success. In fact, they were the best kids I ever bred. And I have bred some show winners. They are very hardy and productive and are not small at all. Most large-time breeders use sires back over daughters at one time or another to double up on excellent genetics. It is very common and is not considered inbreeding unless it is carried to excess(generations bred to the same buck is NOT a good idea!). It should only be practiced with excellent genetics. Indiscriminate inbreeding is to be avoided at all costs. But if you have a really quality buck(and I mean really good), and he produces really good kids, breeding back to him for another generation may be your best bet. Especially with meat goats. No matter what buck you use, be prepared to eat the kids rather than keeping them if they turn out to be disapointing. That is something that every goat breeder should be willing to do before they decide to breed. It is NOT incestuous, it is NOT wrong, and it can be a great tool if used *properly*. If you just have a so/so buck, I'd reccomend trading out for new blood each year. Many of these are excellent kids from father/daughter breedings. 
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