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Posted 10/27/2009 5:34:51 PM
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Ok...so in response to the requests that there hasn't been much new lately, I thought I would share my American Guinnea Hog's (and my) first pregnancy experience.  I got my 3 girls and a boar at Thanksgiving last year.  The girls (Pru, Piper and Phoebe) were 12 weeks old and Bosephus was 8 weeks.  I drove to Wisconsin for them and had a ten hour drive home with them in the back of the truck.  They did just fine.  Guinnea Hogs are listed as rare breeds with ALBC and part of the reason for breeding them is to increase the population of them.  They are a land race breed known as easy keepers, very social and not as large as commercial hogs.  They are about 1 pound at birth and the breed website describes them as soda pop bottles with legs which is pretty accurate.  They are supposed to get to about 200 pounds in a couple years and are said to be delicious.  They are a lard hog and are definately THE OTHER RED MEAT.

At any rate, they spent the rest of the winter in the barn and I didn't have a way to get them outside.  The standard advice is:  don't let them get fat or they won't breed!!  Well, I think they got too fat inside and they didn't get pregnant as soon as I expected.  I also think they may have been pregnant once and miscarried soon into it but I'm not sure.  I spent the summer trying to figure out whether they were just fat (as my brother kept telling me) or pregnant.  I eventually decided that they had to be pregnant since it was very obvious that the girls (who have always been bigger than Bosephus) were much fatter than he was.  My first clear sign that I was right was when their udders "dropped" even before they filled out with milk.  Their vulvas were a bit dilated but not as much as I would have expected.  I found a Storey magazine that talked about both respirations increasing and temps increasing about 72 hours before birth.  Well, I wasn't interested in checking temps but I was able to notice that Pru (my biggest mommie) was really increasing her rate of breathing and that she would waddle out a bit and then lay down.  This was potentially a red herring as we had unseasonably warm temps for the last 3 weeks before they gave birth.

Well, I knew it should be soon but on Sunday morning when I arrived, she had 8 active, cleaned up little piggies.  There was one large piglet that was dead and a much smaller one that didn't make it out of the after birth.  My LGD cleaned up everything.   Pru made a nice big nest and I noticed she fed them outside of it.  I put up a heat lamp just in case, but it was still warm and they have rarely used it.  Sometime after two weeks one of them "disappeared"...I'm guessing it died and the LGD disposed of it.

The next largest girl had hers on Thursday.  By the time I got there, she had 6 babies running about although  they were obviously smaller.   The weather had started to turn cold and got unseasonably cold over the next week.  She made her nest in a small shed that had partially blown down and didn't have much straw or much space.  I gave her more straw and a heatlamp but within 48 hours she obviously laid on 3 babies.  I tried to save one but it just never seemed to be able to get enough nutrition and it only lasted another 12 hours.  The other 3 are strong and healthy although smaller.

Mommie #3 had 7 babies about a week later.  By then it was 20 at night (about 20 degrees colder than it should have been) and wet.  She made a very small nest in deep straw.  She lost 2 right after birth and lost all the rest over the next 24 hours.  She was the smallest of the sows and the weather was the worst. 

They all ate the same feed and they all gained weight at the same rate as their original sizes when I got them so....I believe that my losses were based predominately on the weather change and their inexperience with motherhood and nest building.  I am hoping (controlling this is somewhat controlable but not completely) that their next litters will be in May and that weather will be a bit better.  I am also planning (now that I know what pregnancy looks like) to confine them in pens before birth.  Guinnea hogs aren't supposed to need farrowing crates.    There are definately differences in their mothering styles as momma #1 is very observant but not aggressive about it.  Momma #2 was much more protective of her 3 after she lost the others.  She acted like she might bite me once but thought better of it.  She did step on my foot which probably hurt worst.

Since this is "rescue breeding" I am planning to try to sell the best 4 or 5 as breeding stock and the rest as just plain pigs.   I know this is really long and congratulations if you've had the patience to read it.  Sometimes I've found that if you don't know what to ask, it's hard to know what you don't know so I thought I'd share this in some detail for the other newbies like me.  Mary Ann

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Posted 10/28/2009 6:38:53 AM
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Hey you, thanks for your point of view with your experience with farrowing. So when P2 gets his Hereford Hogs in two yrs this is what we are looking at...LOL...

Congrats on the babies!

How much do you think they weight now and how old are they?

Did you clip their teeth? What shots have you given them so far?

How's the family feeling? Hopefully better.

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Posted 10/28/2009 9:12:41 AM
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I am in the process of trying to get certified organic and started my "Organic 101" class last Saturday so I am resisting shots.  My organic book says if they have roots to eat (which they and their mommas do) that you can avoid iron shots.  (I am wondering if that is my the adults are rototilling my yard.)  One of my classes is 12/5 on veterinary practices for organic livestock so I'll find out what I can/can't do.  I have not clipped teeth (mine don't have theirs clipped and Bosephus is getting ready to have some serious tusks erupt).  I am somewhat of the let them develop as they did before we started "raising them" mindset.  I don't dehorn my goats either and we'll see if I get to a point of regretting that later too. 

Family is recovering from whichever flu/colds we had so I am planning to do some serious sexing of the babies.  I haven't wanted to touch them too much as we were all sick and I was worried we'd give them something.  They are 4 weeks old now.  Mary Ann

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Posted 10/28/2009 10:01:41 AM
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That's why we went with the polled Herefords. But now with the Braham in the mix sometime the calves have button and other times they have them. Depending on the sex we may or may not take the horns off.

So do pigs have to be a certain age like rabbits to find out what sex they are?

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Posted 10/28/2009 12:22:42 PM
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No, but when I first looked their umbilical site was still swollen and they were squirming and things were "small".  It's just me; not the pigs.
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