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Posted 10/28/2009 8:33:02 AM


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I've swung a lamb or two in that fashion and for that reason, but never a calf, but I bet it would work.

As for the twins and Holsteins...I hear ya. I know over the years we probably have sent a good many heifer calf's to slaughter because of an old tradition, but it is what we do. I supposed today you could use technology and get a better idea of which ones are producers and which aren't, but that kind of thing can be hard to pencil out sometimes. Back when replacement heifers were $2000 bucks, you could make it work, now that they are a mere $600-$700 dollars...its cheaper to buy a proven first year heifer I think.



I love vegetarians...slice them real thin, dip them in ranch dressing and they compliment lamb quite well! :-)
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Posted 10/28/2009 8:51:11 AM
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Here's a twist on the twin issue.

Hol cattle you want milk production (but we don't deal with dairy) if the twin is from opposite sex will it factor into her milk production? Would the reproduction play into effect if you are trying to more milk?

Like I said, we don't dairy.

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Posted 10/29/2009 1:05:10 AM


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cweick-

We've "hung" the calves upside down to drain fluid but he was gone literally in the blink of an eye.  It was a tight squeeze for him to come out.  I did pump his chest but nada.  There was no "swinging" him either.  He was not a lil boy and my dad and I are not very big plus my dad is 64- he's getting pretty close to DB's motto- used up.  Some vets have told us that its kind of contraindicated to hang/swing them as the guts put pressure on the diaphragm and lungs.  I'm not saying its not worth a shot, they just don't seem to think its very succesfull.

As for milk production, I've never heard of a problem with the heifers producing, but the cow's production for that lactation may not be as good.  When they have twins, they're usually about 2 wks early and the cow just doesn't produce well.  I guess her body just isn't prepared to milk yet.  Never mind the stress of having twins.  Our last cow that had twin heifers ended up going to town cuz she just wasn't producing well.  Maybe she wasn't breeding back, too.  I don't remember.  I was just bummed that she had such nice calves and down the road momma went.  Doesn't sound fair.  Anyway, her twins will be calving late winter/early spring.

Hey DB- whats up with Jerseys rolling and playing with their tongues??  I often stop to watch them (at work) cuz its just so funny!!  Our Hol twins did that when they were calves.  I don't know if they still do it, we will find out when they come in the barn!   We've never had an animal do that just for entertainment.

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Posted 10/29/2009 1:17:57 AM


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Jerseys are funny and I don't understand their thinking sometimes. We got one that insists on being in the first stall on the left hand side of the parlor. When the door opens, here she comes pouring on the steam, shoving hundreds of holsteins out of her way as she presses through. If she does not get there in time and the parlor fills up before she can get in, she will wait until the next round and then its nudging cows out of the way until she gets that first stall on the left side.

Very seldom is she not the first cow with a milker on though. Just funny how she does that. You never see her in the sea of black and white Holsteins because she is smaller of course. You just know where she is because cows are moving, kind of like how a submarine parts the waters on the way to a ship!

I love vegetarians...slice them real thin, dip them in ranch dressing and they compliment lamb quite well! :-)
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Posted 10/29/2009 5:37:58 AM
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We have two Jerseys that roll and play with their tongue.  Sure is hilarious to watch!

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Posted 10/30/2009 11:41:31 PM


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DB- You mean there are times you do understand their thinking??  Then you must share your knowledge with us!!
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Oh you got me on that one. No I don't think I got the Jerseys figured out. But surprisingly I can figure out what the sheep are thinking. A lot of people consider a sheep pretty dumb, but I am not sure that is the case. Once you work with sheep a bit, and understand where they are coming from, they become really predictable!

Don't get me wrong, I can't always get them to do what I want, but that seems to be my fault in not having the proper fences, management techniques or sheep friendly equipment in place first.

I love vegetarians...slice them real thin, dip them in ranch dressing and they compliment lamb quite well! :-)
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Most times when a person lables an animal as "stupid", its because said animal has outwitted said person.

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in beef cattle if you have one of each the female won't bread most of the time. it's called a freemartin and your not going to get much for her eather due to the fact that she's useless for anything but meat. here in pa they run a test on them right in the ring, if they won't break then it's called out before the bid starts and you can kiss your trucking bill good by.

We just eat them here, and then if twins run in the mother's side, send her packing.
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