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Posted 8/26/2009 10:23:37 AM
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I've been debating this myself.  I started taking flu vaccinations when I worked in a residential program for disabled folks.  I couldn't afford my staff to get sick and I couldn't count on the client's hygiene.  Since then I got cancer and for a while was in the "at risk" group.  Now I have kids who are in school and (until this fall) day care and I felt like they could be bringing germs home.  I'm the only adult and can't afford to be sick too long.  Got the flu within 30 days of moving back to ND two winters ago so took the vaccine last year but apparently it was for the "wrong" version.  At any rate, didnt' get sick.  I have figured out that I get the flu every 6 years which leads me to figure there is one strain that I am very susceptable to and it comes every 6 years. 

However, I am considering taking my chances with this one.  Kids are out of day care and going to a smaller school this year and I am (both physically and mentally) much healthier now and may just take my chances.  I am moving away from "manufactured drugs" and taking more herbal supplements so I think I will just give them a go.  I know the medical research doesn't support immunizations as a causation for autism but I have to wonder about some of it and probably won't expose my kids to it.

I also feel a bit that there is a bunch of overkill going on with both the gov and media hype.  I don't think anyone is going to come get me and force me to take a vaccine but I might just be obstinant enough to say "no" on principle.  Mary Ann

 

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Posted 8/26/2009 10:40:24 AM
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I also feel a bit that there is a bunch of overkill going on with both the gov and media hype.  I don't think anyone is going to come get me and force me to take a vaccine but I might just be obstinant enough to say "no" on principle.  Mary Ann

 

Be careful...I just had to get an affidavit notarized for our son's health folder at school about the reason behind not getting him the 2nd chicken pox shot so they would not kick him out.

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Posted 8/26/2009 12:12:59 PM
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I also feel a bit that there is a bunch of overkill going on with both the gov and media hype.  I don't think anyone is going to come get me and force me to take a vaccine but I might just be obstinant enough to say "no" on principle.  Mary Ann

 

Be careful...I just had to get an affidavit notarized for our son's health folder at school about the reason behind not getting him the 2nd chicken pox shot so they would not kick him out.

 

Isn't it ironic that the child who is not vaccinated is the one "at risk", the other kids are "safe" if they are vaccinated and they kick out the kid who is not vaccinated? Crazy rules in this world.

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Posted 8/26/2009 12:21:36 PM
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I think there are a lot of other things much more dangerous to the general public than the flu (such as the government that is pushing the vac). Personally, I am sick so rarely that I am not taking it. I have no health issues, no preexisting conditions and figure that the shot is probably more dangerous than not taking it. I do worry when every other minute on TV you see class action suits against this drug or that and now they want to rush a vac thru for the general public. Just where IS the FDA anymore?  I wonder just what is in the vac and will they be safe? I also dont trust out government to not put things into them to cause a pandemic and panic. Or even inject microchips so they can "track" the sick people and make sure we are "safe" I have NO faith in our government at all. In fact, I 100% distrust all of them.
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Posted 8/26/2009 1:00:12 PM
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The hubbub is a result of fears over a repeat of the Spanish Flu, a flu epidemic following WWI (1918) that infected around 1/3 of the world's population at that time (500 million infected) and killed somewhere between 50 and 100 million. The big scare is that like the 1918 flu, this new one will mutate into a much deadlier form. The 1918 flu was relatively mild when it first hit, killing less people than the common flu. Later, it mutated into a disease that killed indiscriminately. Normal flu usually kills the young, old, or weak/compromised. The Spanish Flu killed young adults in great numbers by making their own immune systems over-react to the infection (cytokine storm). A lot of the hype is probably (hopefully) just that, hype. If the swine/avian flu does mutate though, the swine flu shot may give your system a head start in the event you are infected. That's a quick run-down of swine flu problem. It isn't what the disease has done in the last couple of years that's scary, it's what it could do in the future. FYI, the 1918 flu epidemic is considered by many to be the worst epidemic in recorded human history.
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Posted 8/26/2009 2:38:12 PM
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and who was in their right mind to go a dig up some of the people who died from the 1918 flu?
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Posted 8/26/2009 2:46:16 PM
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Maybe they all read "The Stand" just recently!!
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Posted 10/29/2009 8:45:46 AM
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Well P2 got his N1H1 injection this Monday. So far so good, knocking on real wood here. Both his spec and his ped dr both concurred that is would be in "his best interest."

Hubby got his flu shot this week.

I'll be taking my chances because I can't take the shots. And I wonder where P2 gets his sensitive system from...LOL...

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Posted 10/29/2009 9:59:51 AM


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We talked a lot about this new vaccine with the school nurse and while she is not a Dr by any means, she was very wishy-washy on the subject regarding our 3 year old. At her age, she has to take the nasal spray kind, which is a LIVE form of H1N1 virus, rather then the shots that are the dead virus. That means if she has a strong immune system she should be able to fight it, build up a resistance to new strains, and be just fine. But if her immune system is compromised by a cold or allergies...well we just injected our daughter with H1N1!

We chose NOT to vaccinate her. I know horrible parents... :-)

Eat lamb...because 50,000 coyotes CAN'T be wrong!
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Posted 10/29/2009 10:45:02 AM
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NO not horrible parents.

If I understood the spec right, if P2 was under 5 he would of had to get the live vaccine and get it twice. But since he's over the age limit he got the shot and only 1.

Got to look at the pros and cons and then decide what right for your FAMILY.

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